Wonderful hoax or bleak future. You decide.
Everyone loves a good mystery. It tends to disrupt life's predictable nature and makes you think. Combine that mystery with a science-fiction twist that's grounded in science fact, and you eventually ask the one question that serves as the hallmark of any great story.
"What if?"
The following story is one that should make even the most skeptical beer drinker ask the question. It's a story we've followed online for several years; one that lives in the outer fringes of believability yet occasionally strays into the realm of the credible. If it's a hoax, it's one of the most elaborate deceptions the online community has ever seen. But if it's real, well, God help us all.
So the choice is yours. Take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe. Take the red pill, you stay in wonderland. And we show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
The Underlying Science
This much is known: time travel is possible. Once confined to myth, science fiction and theoretical speculation, it's now a proven reality. Newton was the first to devise a mathematical definition of how motion changes with time. But he also admitted he could only describe what he saw without fully understanding how it worked. Enter Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. Old Albert was able to show how time changes with motion; that time is relative to the speed at which you're traveling. In other words, an object traveling at high speeds will age more slowly than a stationary object. Toss in a few other abstract ideas like Stephen Hawking's wormholes, Ed Witten's superstring theory and the generally accepted rules of quantum mechanics, and time travel is no longer restricted to Deloreans, flux capacitors and 1.21 jigawatts, Marty.
The (Un)believable Story
In November of 2000, a person calling himself Timetravel_0 started making online posts in several public forums claiming to be a time traveler from 2036. Immediately dismissed as a confused Trekkie searching for a convention, he was ridiculed and damn-near laughed off the boards. But his steadfast refusal to be shamed into hiding peaked the interest of several folks who grilled him with questions. They asked why he was here, the physics involved with time travel and what life looked like 36 years down the virtual road.
Timetravel_0 eventually identified himself as a man named John Titor. Over the course of several months, he entertained, angered, frightened and, at times, belittled those around him. He even went so far as to post pictures of his "time machine" and its operations manual. Seriously.
Titor claimed back in 2000 that CERN (the world's largest particle physics laboratory based in Geneva that Dan Brown actually wrote about in his novelThe DaVinci Code would discover some "very odd things" as a result of their high-energy experiments and blindly stumble upon the formula needed to manufacture microsingularities. That's a big word for an unproven theory regarding microscopic black holes which evaporate very quickly. Almost six months to the day after his posting, CERN announced they were lighting the fuse on the world's biggest particle accelerator built to study the building blocks of matter. That's an atom-smashing super-collider some feared (and still fear today) could be used to create mini-black holes that, in turn, could literally eat up the entire planet.
Now hang with us here. Titor explained that by bombarding a singularity with electrons, you can alter the size of its event horizon (which is basically the surface of a black hole if envisioned in its simplistic 3D geometry). That will alter the size of the black hole's gravitational field. By then overlapping the gravitational fields from two singularities and somehow manipulating them, you can travel forward or backward through time because it's being bent. Just like Einstein theorized. And apparently all that happens as a result of something called the C204 Unit.
Here's the detailed schematic presumably from Titor's technical manual. It refers to the time-travel device as the "General Electric Army Model C204 Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit". Unfortunately, (or purposefully), the section explaining what the numbered labels refer to is missing so the actual circuitry can't be fully analyzed.
Here's an example of where the story gets even more improbable. This is an actual picture Titor posted online purporting to show his C204 Unit. That's right. It's resting on the passenger side of a car (he once identified the car in a post as being a Corvette). He also mentioned the Unit is 5 feet long, 2-feet by 2-feet square and roughly weighs 500 pounds.
Apparently Titor later exchanged his Corvette for a 4WD truck. That's what this picture shows, along with what appears to be a stainless Mossberg 590 Mariner shotgun statioend in the front of the vehicle (which may be significant later in the story). According to him, the C204 Unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years per jump and runs at ten years an hour at 100% power.
So why would a time traveler use a Chevy to manipulate the time-space continuoum and not some futuristic vehicle straight outta the Jetsons? What research the BDS has done hasn't uncovered that question ever being asked or answered, which leads us towards even more skepticism. From what we gathered, apparently the type of vehicle doesn't matter as much as the C204 Unit itself.
Placed inside the vehicle and turned on, the Unit is reported to generate its own gravity field. This causes the traveler to feel himself literally being pulled towards the unit, while the vehicle itself appears to accelerate as light is being bent around it. Once the desired speed is achieved (88 miles per hour, perhaps?), the traveler sees nothing but black empty space outside his window until the Unit is deactivated.
As you can guess, the skeptics immediately crawled out from under their physics books to call into question the science involved in such a feat. For one, several known (and published) physicists declared Titor an outright fraud; his science simply didn't add up to conventional understanding of the univese, they argued. They claimed his C204 Gravity Distortion Unit was too small and didn't possess enough mass to create the singularity (mini-black hole) needed for time travel. Titor countered this accusation by stating Einstein's General Theory of Relativity works for mass, too and that his double-singularity model only SIMULATES the effects of a black hole. His unit, he claimed, doesn't actually create one.
Other scientists maintained Titor's time machine would never be able to overcome or withstand Hawking Radiation. First postulated by Stephen Hawking back in 1975 (hence the name), Hawking Radiation is a type of radiation thought to be emitted by black holes. Arising from the creation of pairs of subatomic particles adjacent to the black hole, one particle is thought to fall into the black hole while the other particle radiates away from it. The energy lost to such radiation particles is believed to cause the eventual disappearance of the black hole itself. The science argued that no one would therefore be able to travel in, through or near anything that resembled/acted like a black hole.
Titor's response to all of this back in early 2001? That Hawking Radiation could be adequately controlld and wasn't unpreventable like mainstream science thought. The scientific community laughed at such a preposterous notion, until Hawking himself conceded in 2004 that his black-hole paradox was flawed and that black holes may very well allow information within them to escape.
Read that again. This "time-traveling nutcase" claimed Hawking was wrong three years before Hawking himself admitted it.
Que Twighlight Zone music.
We won't pretend to fully understand the detailed mechanics involved in the scientific debate regarding Titor's claims. But we do know that he provided just enough scientific explanation/justification to his claims that more than a few eyebrows were raised. Like the ones this little online chat he had back in 2001 caused (complete with misspellings):
TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.
Yareisa : go on...
TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.
TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a little story.
TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.
TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a split second and then return.
TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.
TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.
G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?
TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up about 15 miles away and 3000 feet in the air.
TimeTravel_0 : feet
G° : doh!
TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.
wyrmkin_37 : synchroniaztion please
TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine to the Earth.
TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.
TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensative clocks and gravity sensors.
TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in gravity are detected.
wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks?
TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under water...would you?
TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.
As in Caesium 113, the key ingrediant in atomic clocks. The atomic clock is the most accurate realization of a unit that mankind has ever achieved. Back in 1999, scientists began operation of a clock that was so accurate, it would lose less than one second of time in 20 million years. And Titor was either being honest or sneaky-smart when he pointed out the Earth's movement would dictate new technology be used to keep time travelers from materializing in outer space, on top of Everest or the Goddard water tower.
However, Japanese scientists in May 2005 announced the creation of a new atomic clock using strontium atoms, which tests to be more accurate than caesium. If Titor indeed needed the most accurate measurement of time for his machine, you would think he would have known strontium was better than caesium. However, the actual precision of the clocks used in the C204 are never specific, so once again we're left guessing.
Our point is this—while his story may seem improbable, his science is, at the very least, plausible. So continue to suspend your disbelief and read on.
The Reason For His Journey Back
Titor claimed he originally traveled back to the year 1975 to retrieve a vintage IBM 5100 computer built in Rochester, Minnesota. The 5100 did exist and is celebrated among the computer industry as being one of the first portable computers ever produced. According to Titor, there is a massive computer problem with the UNIX computer code in 2036 (it "dies", according to John). More than one programmer familiar with UNIX has since supported his claim as a known problem, although the validity of what these programmers say hasn't been authenticated. Scientists from Titor's time somehow discovered that the 5100 is capable of reading/changing all legacy code written by IBM as well as new code in APL and BASIC. Apparently this IBM computer is needed to "debug" various legacy problems that plague his timeline.
Titor states, through his postings, that technology isn't lost over time but that many of the older tools and techniques have been. He cites NASA's known policy of buying old computer parts over the Internet to keep their systems running as one example.
A time traveler who goes back in time to retrieve an outdated computer? Sounds like a bad teaser found on the back of a cheap paperback novel until you realize IBM never officially announced that secret code-reading capability of the 5100. It wasn't until Bob Dubke, an IBM engineer who designed that classified function and who now owns a small research lab in Rochester came forward to verify Titor's assertion in September 2004. Dubke's on the record as stating IBM supressed the information regarding the 5100's capabilities because they worried how the competition might use it. In other words, the 5100's secret function that allowed it to read/change various code was never publicly disseminated until Titor posted it online.
Stop Twighlight Zone music. Que X-Files theme.
Once again, the "bound for a padded room" weirdo who claimed to be from the future dropped another never-before-known bombshell.
So what was Titor chosen for this "mission"? Because his grandfather apparently worked on the IBM 5100 computer in some capacity and that's why he volunteered for the assignment. When asked why he returned to the year 2000 when his mission was to head back to 1975, Titor made a cryptic reply that has kept people guessing for years.
TimeTravel_0: I'm here because of a promise made to my grandfather in 1975.
Speculation here runs rampant as to why Titor would jump to 2000 prior to jumping back home to 2036. He explained later than a stop in 2000 was necessary for him to minimize the "divergence" between worldlines (worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects take through space-time under the laws of relativity; also synonymous with "alternate universe"). If he had jumped straight back into 2036, he might have gone home to a world that was noticeably different than the one he left. Others speculate it may have something to do with the now-debunked Y2K computer problem (more on that later). But the other reason he may have made a pit stop in 2000? To fulfill a promise he made to his grandfather that he would warn the family of impending doom.
Bad, Bad Things To Come?
Titor doesn't hold any punches when asked what the future looks like. "Bleak" is one word, although he's quick to point out mankind's future isn't written yet and can be altered. A low-scale civil war breaks out in the United States starting in or around 2005. He admits his timing may be off somewhat, but that it's still in the general neighborhood of 2005 (2004-2006). He claims during the war people either a) stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of homeland security or b) leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. He recalls that his home in Florida was searched once and his neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason, which convinced his father to leave the city.
A series of Waco-like events eventually lead to an all-out armed conflict between the people and their government. Titor reports to have joined a citizen shotgun infantry unit at an early age (remember the Mossberg in the earlier photo?). There he serves four years as a rebel, where he personally witnesses hundreds of Americans die at the hands of their government. "If it makes you feel any better," he said, "I never shot anyone who wasn't trying to kill me."
The conflict continues to flair up and down for the better part of a decade, with Big Government holding control over all major cities and the revolutionary patriots controlling the countryside. In 2015, Russia launches a surprise tactical nuclear attack on most major cities in the US, as well as on China and parts of Europe (the first nukes apparently drop on Jacksonville, FLA). While Titor refused to divulge which cities are hit (we'll talk about that dodge later, too), he said each one of us will experience a moment when we become fully aware that we are no longer safe in the cities. What comes as a surprise to John is the millions of people who choose to stay at home during the attacks. These attacks, by the way, aren't seen as attacks on the American people but on the United States government itself (there's a difference). Most of the warheads that hit major cities rain down in groups of three, all of which explode close to the ground in order to prevent a large-scale EMP effect (which is the result of a nuclear detonation that literally fries circuitry such as the starter in your car, computers, TVs, etc). He estimates the overall accuracy of the tactical strikes to be 60-70%. A weak counterattack by the US has little effect on Ivan and Russia soon replaces America as the big kid on the block.
Other parts of the world? Australia repulses a Chinese invastion attempt, but most of her cities are hit. While they later have a trade relationship with America, Titor characterizes the Aussies as "reclusive" and somewhat "ticked off" at the US. South America pulls through relatively unnoticed in the broad scheme of things, but they are dealing with their own internal problems (civil unrest being chief among them). Canadians in 2036 are some of the most efficient, ruthless and dangerous people Titor knows. And Europe? "It's a mess."
After the smoke clears and mankind falls silent to take stock of its actions, nearly 3 billion people are dead and millions more are left suffering due to a lack of clean water and safe food. That's why Titor is quick to point out to us that "no one likes you much in the future".
As you can imagine, the war has a very profound effect on Titor and the people who are left to clean up after it. Death is a familiar story to them all. Everyone lost loved ones in the conflict, and again he cryptically states "most of us have even taken part in dishing it out", a less-than-vague reference to his actions during the war.
Life 31 years down the road isn't easy. Titor lives in a world recovering from years of war, destruction and hate. All of which, he quickly points out, is courtesy of us. Apparently our grandkids don't like us much because of that. But while a nuclear conflict is something best left avoided, it's not the end of the world. While there are cities/areas that simply can't be entered and are considered "dead zones", he points to Hiroshima being a thriving city today as proof that life moves on.
A new system of federal government emerges after the war. For reasons never specified, the capital of the country is moved to, of all places, Omaha, NE. Not one but five presidents are voted in and out at different times. This makes foreign policy more consistent and power shifts at the highest levels have less of an impact on the overall government. Why five? Because they represent the five major areas the country has been divided into. The vice-president is still the president of the Senate and is voted on in a separate election. Overall federal government is eventually decentralized, with local and state governments playing a much larger role.
Life after The War revolves around family and community. People are valued and judged based on their contributions and worth to both. Most communities range in size from 1000 to 4000 people. In exchange for work, people receive power, water, a certain amount of food and other necessities that are produced inside the community. Sounds like Ivan left us with more than a few nukes. Sounds like a touch of communism may very well run through Titor's world.
They still have jails. Those convicted of theft, fraud, rape and murder are sentenced to hard labor, community service, banishment of public execution. Paper money is still used, which means you still have to pay taxes (but no federal income tax). Credit cards exist too, but the monetary system is decentralized. People travel primarily via high-speed train systems, horseback, bikes and walking. Automobiles are used mostly for sport, although they're gaining in popularity again for transportation use. Clean water and food not only take top priority above all else, but both are hard to come by. Apparently Mad Cow Disease (CJD) becomes a very serious health concern and is "devistating" for years to come. In fact, Titor claims it to be one of our biggest challenges in the future.
But the worst of it all? Nowhere in our research did we find any mention of beer and its future. If beer is relegated to a happy memory in this unwelcoming future, then God help us all indeed.
The Time Traveler's Excuse
Among multiple issues we have with this entire story is Titor's "Code of Ethics". This code, posted early on in his writings, prevents him from naming actual names and placing actual places; he refuses to say if the KC Royals will sweep the World Series in 2006 like they do in our dreams. According to this ethic:
1. He will never disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sport tips.
2. He will never disclose any detailed information that woudl allow someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake information or a detailed listing of cities that'll get nuked. More than a few skeptics had some choice words for Titor regarding this "ethic" and his failure to post warnings of 9/11.
3. He will never disclose any detailed information that may compromise future actions by people or threaten their families. This means no names or events associated with specific individuals.
Furthermore, he wiggles out of being pinned down by the old Time Traveler excuse that things could always change. "The very nature of time travel states," he said, "that every worldline is unique and you are in control of what you do. Heck, the fact that I am here now makes it different from mine." In other words, none of Titor's predictions are inevitable for us by his own account. And therefore there's no concrete proof to hold as evidence that he is a man from the future who's come to warn us about it.
But just as we're about to totally disregard him as a disgruntled right-wing militia looking to spin his own dream of Serf revolt into a self-serving sci-fi tale, he stays stuff like this in early 2001:
Q: Does China have a manned space program between 2001 and 2036?
A: I believe they're pretty close to putting a man in orbit now, although few people know just how close. It shouldn't come as a surprise if it happens soon.
Eighteen months later, he was right.
Those who believe Titor also point to his prediction that no WMDs would be found in Iraq. "Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?" Remember, that statement was made well before the invasion of Iraq and long before the Bush Administration ever mentioned Sadaam's purported nuclear capability (anyone remember the Yellowcake line from the State of the Union address?). Granted, a number of people felt Bush's WMD excuse wasn't 100% accurate to begin with, but Titor literally called "bullshit" 24 months before the invasion.
Educated guess? Maybe. But it does make you wonder...
Now For The Really Weird Part
Titor claimed that, on his way back to 2036 from 1975, he stopped off in 2000. And whose door does he knock on? His own. That's right. Our traveling soldier pays a visit to dear old Mom and Dad. And because John claimes to be bord in 1998, that means he also hangs out with...himself. Imagine that conversation. Apparently while the elder John was furiously typing away on Dad's computer in the basement warning mankind of its violent future through a few online forums, his younger self was asleep upstairs wearing footsy pajamas.
And Just Like That, He Disappeared
Titor made his last known post on March 24, 2001. In it, he answered a few more questions and left us with, among other things, a rather cryptic farewell.
I will be leaving this worldline shortly and this will be my final post. There are only a handful of peopl ewho will know exactly when I will be leaving and I'm sure they will let you know when I'm gone.
In the last few days, I have found your choice of topics quite interesting and, from an objective viewpoint, I think it collectively answers one of your own questions. "If time travel is real, where are all the time travelers?" In the past, I have stated that quite frankly, you all scare the hell out of me and I'm sure other temporal drivers would feel the same. But now I have an expanded explanation.
As while ago (on one of the posts), I related an experience I had with my parents whil we were driving down the highway. Every now and then, we would pass someone who was in obvious distress with their vehicle. I was amazed that so many people could pass them by without stopping to help. Their explanation was fear. The risk of helping someone was too great and with today's technology, they probably had a cell phone anyway. If they didn't, the walk to the gas station would be good for them. It would teach them a lesson about running out of gas. This is why time travelers don't show themselves. In trying to help you, we put ourselves at great risk and there's no point to it.
Bring a gas can with you when the car dies on the side of the road.
Farewell.
John
And that was it. That was the last known communication between this world and a person calling himself John Titor. Books have since been written on him, someone actually wrote a play about the story and there's even talk of a major motion picture brewing in the works. If he was smart, he'd come back and cash in on his noteriety. But he hasn't.
Couldn't be because he's currently just six years old, could it?
For Those Who Took The Blue Pill...
It's a hoax. The whole damn thing. You know it is. It has to be. Granted, it's one of the more elaborate, well-orchestrated hoaxes in a virtual playground filled with them, but it's still a hoax. Remember the reaction a small-time sci-fi writer named Orson Wells had on the general public with a radio broadcast on Halloween? Same thing applies here. People are sheep, and sheep are easily manipulated. And an actual picture of a time machine? Please. HE PUT IT IN A CHEVY. That's not even original fiction. Forget for a moment the baby-boomer vernacular Titor used in his posts and focus more on the right-wing Libertarian dream of destroying Big Government that's woven throughout his stor. Thanks for the semi-entertaining read, but I'll leave my time travels to reading stories about taking the principal's daughter to Prom back in 1990 on two-bit blogs like this one.
And For Those Who Took The Red Pill...
Einstein proved you can bend time and space. Therefore, the theory of time travel is anything but fiction. The physics of time travel, as sold by Titor, may walk the line of the improbable but never crosses into the realm of the impossible. If he's a joke, then explain how our visiting time traveler refuted the fundamental tenants of Hawking Radiation YEARS BEFORE HAWKING HIMSELF DID, smart guy. Lucky guess? No. Educated deduction? This random Sci-Fi channel junkie just made the smartest physicist on the damn planet look stupid. Admit it. The premise intrigues you enough to read the entire post again and wonder "what if...". If even half of what he says proves true, we're all in trouble. Big, big trouble.
The people who understand what they are seeing are not aggressive. Everyone else just finds them entertaining. The obvious answer is that the only worldline of consequence is my own and I don't care what happens here. That, however, is not the case. I have show all these documents in order that people might consider the possibility.
I do not expect people to believe them. Or me.
"What if?"
The following story is one that should make even the most skeptical beer drinker ask the question. It's a story we've followed online for several years; one that lives in the outer fringes of believability yet occasionally strays into the realm of the credible. If it's a hoax, it's one of the most elaborate deceptions the online community has ever seen. But if it's real, well, God help us all.
So the choice is yours. Take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe. Take the red pill, you stay in wonderland. And we show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
The Underlying Science
This much is known: time travel is possible. Once confined to myth, science fiction and theoretical speculation, it's now a proven reality. Newton was the first to devise a mathematical definition of how motion changes with time. But he also admitted he could only describe what he saw without fully understanding how it worked. Enter Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. Old Albert was able to show how time changes with motion; that time is relative to the speed at which you're traveling. In other words, an object traveling at high speeds will age more slowly than a stationary object. Toss in a few other abstract ideas like Stephen Hawking's wormholes, Ed Witten's superstring theory and the generally accepted rules of quantum mechanics, and time travel is no longer restricted to Deloreans, flux capacitors and 1.21 jigawatts, Marty.
The (Un)believable Story
In November of 2000, a person calling himself Timetravel_0 started making online posts in several public forums claiming to be a time traveler from 2036. Immediately dismissed as a confused Trekkie searching for a convention, he was ridiculed and damn-near laughed off the boards. But his steadfast refusal to be shamed into hiding peaked the interest of several folks who grilled him with questions. They asked why he was here, the physics involved with time travel and what life looked like 36 years down the virtual road.
Timetravel_0 eventually identified himself as a man named John Titor. Over the course of several months, he entertained, angered, frightened and, at times, belittled those around him. He even went so far as to post pictures of his "time machine" and its operations manual. Seriously.
Titor claimed back in 2000 that CERN (the world's largest particle physics laboratory based in Geneva that Dan Brown actually wrote about in his novelThe DaVinci Code would discover some "very odd things" as a result of their high-energy experiments and blindly stumble upon the formula needed to manufacture microsingularities. That's a big word for an unproven theory regarding microscopic black holes which evaporate very quickly. Almost six months to the day after his posting, CERN announced they were lighting the fuse on the world's biggest particle accelerator built to study the building blocks of matter. That's an atom-smashing super-collider some feared (and still fear today) could be used to create mini-black holes that, in turn, could literally eat up the entire planet.
Now hang with us here. Titor explained that by bombarding a singularity with electrons, you can alter the size of its event horizon (which is basically the surface of a black hole if envisioned in its simplistic 3D geometry). That will alter the size of the black hole's gravitational field. By then overlapping the gravitational fields from two singularities and somehow manipulating them, you can travel forward or backward through time because it's being bent. Just like Einstein theorized. And apparently all that happens as a result of something called the C204 Unit.
Here's the detailed schematic presumably from Titor's technical manual. It refers to the time-travel device as the "General Electric Army Model C204 Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit". Unfortunately, (or purposefully), the section explaining what the numbered labels refer to is missing so the actual circuitry can't be fully analyzed.
Here's an example of where the story gets even more improbable. This is an actual picture Titor posted online purporting to show his C204 Unit. That's right. It's resting on the passenger side of a car (he once identified the car in a post as being a Corvette). He also mentioned the Unit is 5 feet long, 2-feet by 2-feet square and roughly weighs 500 pounds.
Apparently Titor later exchanged his Corvette for a 4WD truck. That's what this picture shows, along with what appears to be a stainless Mossberg 590 Mariner shotgun statioend in the front of the vehicle (which may be significant later in the story). According to him, the C204 Unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years per jump and runs at ten years an hour at 100% power.
So why would a time traveler use a Chevy to manipulate the time-space continuoum and not some futuristic vehicle straight outta the Jetsons? What research the BDS has done hasn't uncovered that question ever being asked or answered, which leads us towards even more skepticism. From what we gathered, apparently the type of vehicle doesn't matter as much as the C204 Unit itself.
Placed inside the vehicle and turned on, the Unit is reported to generate its own gravity field. This causes the traveler to feel himself literally being pulled towards the unit, while the vehicle itself appears to accelerate as light is being bent around it. Once the desired speed is achieved (88 miles per hour, perhaps?), the traveler sees nothing but black empty space outside his window until the Unit is deactivated.
As you can guess, the skeptics immediately crawled out from under their physics books to call into question the science involved in such a feat. For one, several known (and published) physicists declared Titor an outright fraud; his science simply didn't add up to conventional understanding of the univese, they argued. They claimed his C204 Gravity Distortion Unit was too small and didn't possess enough mass to create the singularity (mini-black hole) needed for time travel. Titor countered this accusation by stating Einstein's General Theory of Relativity works for mass, too and that his double-singularity model only SIMULATES the effects of a black hole. His unit, he claimed, doesn't actually create one.
Other scientists maintained Titor's time machine would never be able to overcome or withstand Hawking Radiation. First postulated by Stephen Hawking back in 1975 (hence the name), Hawking Radiation is a type of radiation thought to be emitted by black holes. Arising from the creation of pairs of subatomic particles adjacent to the black hole, one particle is thought to fall into the black hole while the other particle radiates away from it. The energy lost to such radiation particles is believed to cause the eventual disappearance of the black hole itself. The science argued that no one would therefore be able to travel in, through or near anything that resembled/acted like a black hole.
Titor's response to all of this back in early 2001? That Hawking Radiation could be adequately controlld and wasn't unpreventable like mainstream science thought. The scientific community laughed at such a preposterous notion, until Hawking himself conceded in 2004 that his black-hole paradox was flawed and that black holes may very well allow information within them to escape.
Read that again. This "time-traveling nutcase" claimed Hawking was wrong three years before Hawking himself admitted it.
Que Twighlight Zone music.
We won't pretend to fully understand the detailed mechanics involved in the scientific debate regarding Titor's claims. But we do know that he provided just enough scientific explanation/justification to his claims that more than a few eyebrows were raised. Like the ones this little online chat he had back in 2001 caused (complete with misspellings):
TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.
Yareisa : go on...
TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.
TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a little story.
TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.
TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a split second and then return.
TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.
TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.
G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?
TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up about 15 miles away and 3000 feet in the air.
TimeTravel_0 : feet
G° : doh!
TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.
wyrmkin_37 : synchroniaztion please
TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine to the Earth.
TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.
TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensative clocks and gravity sensors.
TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in gravity are detected.
wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks?
TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under water...would you?
TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.
As in Caesium 113, the key ingrediant in atomic clocks. The atomic clock is the most accurate realization of a unit that mankind has ever achieved. Back in 1999, scientists began operation of a clock that was so accurate, it would lose less than one second of time in 20 million years. And Titor was either being honest or sneaky-smart when he pointed out the Earth's movement would dictate new technology be used to keep time travelers from materializing in outer space, on top of Everest or the Goddard water tower.
However, Japanese scientists in May 2005 announced the creation of a new atomic clock using strontium atoms, which tests to be more accurate than caesium. If Titor indeed needed the most accurate measurement of time for his machine, you would think he would have known strontium was better than caesium. However, the actual precision of the clocks used in the C204 are never specific, so once again we're left guessing.
Our point is this—while his story may seem improbable, his science is, at the very least, plausible. So continue to suspend your disbelief and read on.
The Reason For His Journey Back
Titor claimed he originally traveled back to the year 1975 to retrieve a vintage IBM 5100 computer built in Rochester, Minnesota. The 5100 did exist and is celebrated among the computer industry as being one of the first portable computers ever produced. According to Titor, there is a massive computer problem with the UNIX computer code in 2036 (it "dies", according to John). More than one programmer familiar with UNIX has since supported his claim as a known problem, although the validity of what these programmers say hasn't been authenticated. Scientists from Titor's time somehow discovered that the 5100 is capable of reading/changing all legacy code written by IBM as well as new code in APL and BASIC. Apparently this IBM computer is needed to "debug" various legacy problems that plague his timeline.
Titor states, through his postings, that technology isn't lost over time but that many of the older tools and techniques have been. He cites NASA's known policy of buying old computer parts over the Internet to keep their systems running as one example.
A time traveler who goes back in time to retrieve an outdated computer? Sounds like a bad teaser found on the back of a cheap paperback novel until you realize IBM never officially announced that secret code-reading capability of the 5100. It wasn't until Bob Dubke, an IBM engineer who designed that classified function and who now owns a small research lab in Rochester came forward to verify Titor's assertion in September 2004. Dubke's on the record as stating IBM supressed the information regarding the 5100's capabilities because they worried how the competition might use it. In other words, the 5100's secret function that allowed it to read/change various code was never publicly disseminated until Titor posted it online.
Stop Twighlight Zone music. Que X-Files theme.
Once again, the "bound for a padded room" weirdo who claimed to be from the future dropped another never-before-known bombshell.
So what was Titor chosen for this "mission"? Because his grandfather apparently worked on the IBM 5100 computer in some capacity and that's why he volunteered for the assignment. When asked why he returned to the year 2000 when his mission was to head back to 1975, Titor made a cryptic reply that has kept people guessing for years.
TimeTravel_0: I'm here because of a promise made to my grandfather in 1975.
Speculation here runs rampant as to why Titor would jump to 2000 prior to jumping back home to 2036. He explained later than a stop in 2000 was necessary for him to minimize the "divergence" between worldlines (worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects take through space-time under the laws of relativity; also synonymous with "alternate universe"). If he had jumped straight back into 2036, he might have gone home to a world that was noticeably different than the one he left. Others speculate it may have something to do with the now-debunked Y2K computer problem (more on that later). But the other reason he may have made a pit stop in 2000? To fulfill a promise he made to his grandfather that he would warn the family of impending doom.
Bad, Bad Things To Come?
Titor doesn't hold any punches when asked what the future looks like. "Bleak" is one word, although he's quick to point out mankind's future isn't written yet and can be altered. A low-scale civil war breaks out in the United States starting in or around 2005. He admits his timing may be off somewhat, but that it's still in the general neighborhood of 2005 (2004-2006). He claims during the war people either a) stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of homeland security or b) leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. He recalls that his home in Florida was searched once and his neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason, which convinced his father to leave the city.
A series of Waco-like events eventually lead to an all-out armed conflict between the people and their government. Titor reports to have joined a citizen shotgun infantry unit at an early age (remember the Mossberg in the earlier photo?). There he serves four years as a rebel, where he personally witnesses hundreds of Americans die at the hands of their government. "If it makes you feel any better," he said, "I never shot anyone who wasn't trying to kill me."
The conflict continues to flair up and down for the better part of a decade, with Big Government holding control over all major cities and the revolutionary patriots controlling the countryside. In 2015, Russia launches a surprise tactical nuclear attack on most major cities in the US, as well as on China and parts of Europe (the first nukes apparently drop on Jacksonville, FLA). While Titor refused to divulge which cities are hit (we'll talk about that dodge later, too), he said each one of us will experience a moment when we become fully aware that we are no longer safe in the cities. What comes as a surprise to John is the millions of people who choose to stay at home during the attacks. These attacks, by the way, aren't seen as attacks on the American people but on the United States government itself (there's a difference). Most of the warheads that hit major cities rain down in groups of three, all of which explode close to the ground in order to prevent a large-scale EMP effect (which is the result of a nuclear detonation that literally fries circuitry such as the starter in your car, computers, TVs, etc). He estimates the overall accuracy of the tactical strikes to be 60-70%. A weak counterattack by the US has little effect on Ivan and Russia soon replaces America as the big kid on the block.
Other parts of the world? Australia repulses a Chinese invastion attempt, but most of her cities are hit. While they later have a trade relationship with America, Titor characterizes the Aussies as "reclusive" and somewhat "ticked off" at the US. South America pulls through relatively unnoticed in the broad scheme of things, but they are dealing with their own internal problems (civil unrest being chief among them). Canadians in 2036 are some of the most efficient, ruthless and dangerous people Titor knows. And Europe? "It's a mess."
After the smoke clears and mankind falls silent to take stock of its actions, nearly 3 billion people are dead and millions more are left suffering due to a lack of clean water and safe food. That's why Titor is quick to point out to us that "no one likes you much in the future".
As you can imagine, the war has a very profound effect on Titor and the people who are left to clean up after it. Death is a familiar story to them all. Everyone lost loved ones in the conflict, and again he cryptically states "most of us have even taken part in dishing it out", a less-than-vague reference to his actions during the war.
Life 31 years down the road isn't easy. Titor lives in a world recovering from years of war, destruction and hate. All of which, he quickly points out, is courtesy of us. Apparently our grandkids don't like us much because of that. But while a nuclear conflict is something best left avoided, it's not the end of the world. While there are cities/areas that simply can't be entered and are considered "dead zones", he points to Hiroshima being a thriving city today as proof that life moves on.
A new system of federal government emerges after the war. For reasons never specified, the capital of the country is moved to, of all places, Omaha, NE. Not one but five presidents are voted in and out at different times. This makes foreign policy more consistent and power shifts at the highest levels have less of an impact on the overall government. Why five? Because they represent the five major areas the country has been divided into. The vice-president is still the president of the Senate and is voted on in a separate election. Overall federal government is eventually decentralized, with local and state governments playing a much larger role.
Life after The War revolves around family and community. People are valued and judged based on their contributions and worth to both. Most communities range in size from 1000 to 4000 people. In exchange for work, people receive power, water, a certain amount of food and other necessities that are produced inside the community. Sounds like Ivan left us with more than a few nukes. Sounds like a touch of communism may very well run through Titor's world.
They still have jails. Those convicted of theft, fraud, rape and murder are sentenced to hard labor, community service, banishment of public execution. Paper money is still used, which means you still have to pay taxes (but no federal income tax). Credit cards exist too, but the monetary system is decentralized. People travel primarily via high-speed train systems, horseback, bikes and walking. Automobiles are used mostly for sport, although they're gaining in popularity again for transportation use. Clean water and food not only take top priority above all else, but both are hard to come by. Apparently Mad Cow Disease (CJD) becomes a very serious health concern and is "devistating" for years to come. In fact, Titor claims it to be one of our biggest challenges in the future.
But the worst of it all? Nowhere in our research did we find any mention of beer and its future. If beer is relegated to a happy memory in this unwelcoming future, then God help us all indeed.
The Time Traveler's Excuse
Among multiple issues we have with this entire story is Titor's "Code of Ethics". This code, posted early on in his writings, prevents him from naming actual names and placing actual places; he refuses to say if the KC Royals will sweep the World Series in 2006 like they do in our dreams. According to this ethic:
1. He will never disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sport tips.
2. He will never disclose any detailed information that woudl allow someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake information or a detailed listing of cities that'll get nuked. More than a few skeptics had some choice words for Titor regarding this "ethic" and his failure to post warnings of 9/11.
3. He will never disclose any detailed information that may compromise future actions by people or threaten their families. This means no names or events associated with specific individuals.
Furthermore, he wiggles out of being pinned down by the old Time Traveler excuse that things could always change. "The very nature of time travel states," he said, "that every worldline is unique and you are in control of what you do. Heck, the fact that I am here now makes it different from mine." In other words, none of Titor's predictions are inevitable for us by his own account. And therefore there's no concrete proof to hold as evidence that he is a man from the future who's come to warn us about it.
But just as we're about to totally disregard him as a disgruntled right-wing militia looking to spin his own dream of Serf revolt into a self-serving sci-fi tale, he stays stuff like this in early 2001:
Q: Does China have a manned space program between 2001 and 2036?
A: I believe they're pretty close to putting a man in orbit now, although few people know just how close. It shouldn't come as a surprise if it happens soon.
Eighteen months later, he was right.
Those who believe Titor also point to his prediction that no WMDs would be found in Iraq. "Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?" Remember, that statement was made well before the invasion of Iraq and long before the Bush Administration ever mentioned Sadaam's purported nuclear capability (anyone remember the Yellowcake line from the State of the Union address?). Granted, a number of people felt Bush's WMD excuse wasn't 100% accurate to begin with, but Titor literally called "bullshit" 24 months before the invasion.
Educated guess? Maybe. But it does make you wonder...
Now For The Really Weird Part
Titor claimed that, on his way back to 2036 from 1975, he stopped off in 2000. And whose door does he knock on? His own. That's right. Our traveling soldier pays a visit to dear old Mom and Dad. And because John claimes to be bord in 1998, that means he also hangs out with...himself. Imagine that conversation. Apparently while the elder John was furiously typing away on Dad's computer in the basement warning mankind of its violent future through a few online forums, his younger self was asleep upstairs wearing footsy pajamas.
And Just Like That, He Disappeared
Titor made his last known post on March 24, 2001. In it, he answered a few more questions and left us with, among other things, a rather cryptic farewell.
I will be leaving this worldline shortly and this will be my final post. There are only a handful of peopl ewho will know exactly when I will be leaving and I'm sure they will let you know when I'm gone.
In the last few days, I have found your choice of topics quite interesting and, from an objective viewpoint, I think it collectively answers one of your own questions. "If time travel is real, where are all the time travelers?" In the past, I have stated that quite frankly, you all scare the hell out of me and I'm sure other temporal drivers would feel the same. But now I have an expanded explanation.
As while ago (on one of the posts), I related an experience I had with my parents whil we were driving down the highway. Every now and then, we would pass someone who was in obvious distress with their vehicle. I was amazed that so many people could pass them by without stopping to help. Their explanation was fear. The risk of helping someone was too great and with today's technology, they probably had a cell phone anyway. If they didn't, the walk to the gas station would be good for them. It would teach them a lesson about running out of gas. This is why time travelers don't show themselves. In trying to help you, we put ourselves at great risk and there's no point to it.
Bring a gas can with you when the car dies on the side of the road.
Farewell.
John
And that was it. That was the last known communication between this world and a person calling himself John Titor. Books have since been written on him, someone actually wrote a play about the story and there's even talk of a major motion picture brewing in the works. If he was smart, he'd come back and cash in on his noteriety. But he hasn't.
Couldn't be because he's currently just six years old, could it?
For Those Who Took The Blue Pill...
It's a hoax. The whole damn thing. You know it is. It has to be. Granted, it's one of the more elaborate, well-orchestrated hoaxes in a virtual playground filled with them, but it's still a hoax. Remember the reaction a small-time sci-fi writer named Orson Wells had on the general public with a radio broadcast on Halloween? Same thing applies here. People are sheep, and sheep are easily manipulated. And an actual picture of a time machine? Please. HE PUT IT IN A CHEVY. That's not even original fiction. Forget for a moment the baby-boomer vernacular Titor used in his posts and focus more on the right-wing Libertarian dream of destroying Big Government that's woven throughout his stor. Thanks for the semi-entertaining read, but I'll leave my time travels to reading stories about taking the principal's daughter to Prom back in 1990 on two-bit blogs like this one.
And For Those Who Took The Red Pill...
Einstein proved you can bend time and space. Therefore, the theory of time travel is anything but fiction. The physics of time travel, as sold by Titor, may walk the line of the improbable but never crosses into the realm of the impossible. If he's a joke, then explain how our visiting time traveler refuted the fundamental tenants of Hawking Radiation YEARS BEFORE HAWKING HIMSELF DID, smart guy. Lucky guess? No. Educated deduction? This random Sci-Fi channel junkie just made the smartest physicist on the damn planet look stupid. Admit it. The premise intrigues you enough to read the entire post again and wonder "what if...". If even half of what he says proves true, we're all in trouble. Big, big trouble.
The people who understand what they are seeing are not aggressive. Everyone else just finds them entertaining. The obvious answer is that the only worldline of consequence is my own and I don't care what happens here. That, however, is not the case. I have show all these documents in order that people might consider the possibility.
I do not expect people to believe them. Or me.
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You have been had by a Yoda mask wearing, Starfleet Science Academy bumbersticker car driving, computer geek to the nth degree. John Titor does not travel through time because he does indeed live in his parents basement. The quantum relativistic language is great, but great crap. The reason this guy stop posting was to get into line for the last Star Wars movie. No mention of John consuming beer? Good! More for me to drink in the future with my BDS brothers and Marty McFly.
I like how you guys have a blog that shows both your fun, beer-drinking side and your brainy side. Keep it up!
Oh Crap The machine horribly malfunctioned and now I am trapped in 2005, I decided to take an extra mission to 1995, while I was here in 2000 and 2001 and I wanted to test the grandfather paradox in a new way, I was so sick of the thought that there could be only on worldline that I had to do something so incredible that it would change the future, I made an extra trip to 1995 and had sex with my own mother now I AM MY OWN DADDY.
I need a new tube with two singularities in it to fix my time machine. While I was here I watched Back to the Future three and I thought Oh my god that is just like the trouble I am in.
Where the hell is Doc brown when you need him.
Once I get it fixed I have to go back to 1995 steal another car install this 495 lb. weight in it, go to 2000 and steal another car ( cause the old one would be filled with tons of radiation out the back)
and then get back to 1975 and steal another car and then go back to 2036. I never should smoked that first joint in 2001.
Dammit I spent all of my money on marlboro lites and beer.
Now I gotta weight till 2007 when they get that super collider up.
dammit, dammit dammit.
And for some reason now my parents wont let me stay with them, I guess I have a hard time convincing them that I am their 8 year old little girl.
Remember mom that night I got you really drunk????
That's our little girl and now I don't exist, or wont in the future.
I think I really shot myself in the foot this time.
Somebody call up steven Hawking and tell Him I need two singularities one in the top and one in the bottom half of a Tube in what looks like an array of nine connectors coming out the bottom, -23 MT is quite a bit, but I at the very least need
-17 to get back to 2036.
My superior is going to be a little pissed at me when or if I get back to where I once belonged.
You will need diamond, carbide, aluminum and stro2, to make the tube that will hold them properly.
The nodes send a potential to the plates inside causing the singularities to compress and therefore expand, the point at which they begin to compress has to be within certain limits.
Therefore the singularities once created must be cleaned or they will be explosive.
Damm 5100, I guess it is pretty much useless unless I can get it back to 2036, I can't even play pong on the stupid thing.
I tried using one of those damm flux capacitors, a big one too,
plugged it into the socket turned the power on and nothing, I tried injecting some flux into the top of it, and no output I even tried seimens for god sakes and nothing.
I'de sure like a penis soda right now like they got back in good old 2036.
Who knew AdvancedMacularDisease created the best processors,
I got a dual opteron here I am using and is incredibly faster than this stupid 5100,
I think I'll toss it and take the dual Opteron instead with the Quake III software, maybe that will make up for the stupid wreckless things I have been doing here.
Don't get me wrong Penis Soda isn't as bad as it's name sounds,
It actually has proteins and nutrients with Omega 7 and a touch of Viagra.
We usually take it at night before we plug our moms.
Yeah the future is great - dead bodies everywhere, poisoned food poisoned water, Penis Soda oh and I can't forget that big Giant staue of Hitler.
Right next to the washington monument which has been altered to look like a Giant Penis (thanks to the Penis Soda company) which now is in a forest - called the forest of Penises.
Maybe the Radiation is making me delirious.
I have to get back to 1985 and warn Marty McFly to destroy the Time Machine or the consequences could be dire.
Hello, I believe Titor is out there
RIGHT NOW, he is even almost mainstream, he may even have his own radio show, but is covering up his voice with the most bizzarely fake accent you have ever heard.
Anyway on to the subject of anti-depressants, and EPISODES specifically psychotic episodes that may occur when a depressed person is first introduced to antidepressants or when they go off of them, (or even just stay on them)
if you are familiar with electronics or spark plugs,
it works from an electromagnetic fiel induced in a coil from a dc electrical charge, when there is a change in current the magnetic field collapses while the current must change analogous to the POWER of the magnetic field.
when the electricity is abruptly disconnected the coil tries to maintain the current but with the air resistance in the giga ohms
and the voltage must increase if the current stays constant and resistance increases - rule -
the voltage jumps to very high voltage and creates a spark over the air gap with a transformer this is true with any change (turn on or turn off of current - increase/decrease)
in current,
likewise in ordinary people and people with mental illness when the brain chemistry changes very abruptly the brain tries to maintain its emotional state and may do whatever it can to do that
up to and including suicide/murder
any kind of abrupt episode - tourettes whatever, a person who is not really depressed will have a more indusive reaction to these chemistry changes.
A very good scale to mete with is the actualization referred to in
sam graci's 'The path to Phenomenal Health' page 234 chapter 16.
If answered honesly can give a good representation of a person's 'self actualisation'
people with a 120 score may need to take antidepressant to achieve 140 whereas people with 80 - 90 may need to start on lighter antidepressants or they may have an 'episode' and have the strength worked up to stronger version of the anti-depressant incrementally.
dosage vs strength are not interchangeable much like voltage and current are not interchangeable.
People with schizophrenia may actually profit from antidepressants because it is more on their level of current brain chemistry,
while on psychotropics a person may become very docile and stupid
but when an abrupt change occurs they may have levels of brilliance into the stratospheren that only last for a short duration maybe a day or two.
But there is also the factoring in of stom digestion strength, and the fact that some drugs can be recycled (flashbacks etc)in the body, a person built in mental censoring (christian/religious/morals)
and deception-semipsychotic behaviour wiring.
note an episode can describe something of non severity or petty quirky behaviours not necesarily grand theft auto or murder.
But much thanks to the PS2 and Grand Theft Auto these people having an episode the energy won't be shunned by any morality circuitry and they will kill themselves or someone else when these huge and abrupt brain chemistry changes occur. (that was a good example of sarcasm).
People who are becoming adults and developing and aren't on medications may be missing the self actualisation mark and sort of to say misfiring like a car trying to start (crank car) and may be exhibiting harmless somewhat classifiable as psychotic behaviour they may actually need a buffer to help them get there such as antidepressants or the other reasonable alternative is to let them develope into normal self actualised adults without medication which should be attainable by age 25.
Or the alternative of psychotropics which will cause their self actualisation to drop well bellow 85 and will be run over by society and won't be able to hold a job get a car or have a normal life.
Pschotropics kill dopamine an essential brain chemical for function and the side effects of these drugs are that they also kill other essential brain chemicals essential to the enjoyment of life.
In turn these people (they are human beings) will resort to giving up finding joy and will die inside will have very little of the essence of who they are remaining inside of them.
(left to the conventional medications).
Once these people diagnosed with mild psychosis have reached 'self actualisation' (about 140 and balanced) they should be stepped back down to a 105-120 level, so the can slow down and normalize again and be able to get (ween) off the meds (in dosage now).
and be able to continue as a normalised functional member of society.
This may also work with ex-addicts that are non-relapsing addicts of drugs and/or alchohol if the damage from the addiction is not too horrible.
By having a stepping system of antidepressants in ratings of 80 to 140 (a self actualisation rating) in increments of 5 and that are non conflicting with each other the psychiatrist should be a ble to prescribe them a drug that is 5-10 increments higher than their current 'self actualisation'
and be able to increment over a duration, until the desired self actualisation is achieved (set by either the psychiatrist or both the individual and the person recieving help.
The exception being those that have a severe criminal record and repeat offenses these people may need to be somewhat de'self actualised' with the aid of psychotropics and or antipsychotics' and redirected and re-enforced with a sense of morality through some kind of course where they have to learn that the value of a human life is great and somewhat to respect authority figures while they are around.
at such time that they are deemed as having gone a duration without a re-offense they can opt for the 'self actualisation' program.
It is unfortunate that we only give people with mental illness the unself actualisation drugs and who need the most help while criminals only get rougher and meaner in jail where they learn new tricks and stew and learn to hate authority even more.
They won't learn morality.
in jail and in fact they usually come out stronger and meaner.
I would suggest that they should get anti-psychotic meds while in jail.
Risperidone at a certain dosage contains mercury, this is what they give people who need help ?
Very rarely are people with psychosis actually mass murderers or rapists or even repeat thieves
but every time they find someone who they thought was normal but was actually a serial killer they plead insanity or mental illness
this really should not be allowed unless they were previously diagnosed, because it gives people who do have psychosis a bad name.
like as if everyone with psychosis turns out to be a serial killer? this promotes paranoia and unawareness and really should be seen as a violation of our rights.
The Giants are still here with their evil mentality,
that is likely why there will be a nuclear war.
people over 6'3" usually I find are very evil people who cannot be trusted at any time.
Here are some quotes
"yeah she's sort of my girlfriend,
she really didn't want to have sex so I had to you know force her(then laughs hysterically)"
-Rob Nisbit, talking on the phone.
"she looks like one of those girls that don't hit back!"
-Mark Savage
They are often bullies who do and say whatever they want and to whoever they want and don't really think about what they are saying.
They are very quick to anger and are easily very pissed off.
Often leading to pathological and psychotic violence if you don't agree with them.
At one point I was playing chess in
Rob's home and I didn't agree with his music and I made it clear to him, he then gave me the finger and turned up his crappy eighties rap even louder and proceeded to beat me at chess in anger while he was on meth amphetamines which he needed in order to have his mind work fast enough to keep up to my level of chess intelligence.
After telling mark Savage I had just quit smoking and was at the four day point he offered me a cigarette again and laughed then kept saying things like don't you enjoy smoking? and come on just one puff and repeated until I gave in.
The only thing that keeps them from killing people repeatedly and saving their body parts for food is that the legal penalty for these actions are very great, and that the numbers of people who disagree with this behaviour are large in number.
when I was in hospital last time
I was put into confinement when I was in confinement there was a plain clothes person who was incredibly furious with me, at two points while I was in hospital I was forced an injection I believe may have either been my medication or chemical castration or poison/disease or a combination, at the time (before I got into and during my stay)I thought I was dying and was hoping it was a blood test but that was done at a different time by a REAL Nurse while I was In confinement.
Anyway at which point I had escaped confinement I had managed to make it into the room between
they really took it personally that I had tried to get away, which I could have but gave in because I didn't want to hurt anyone, not long after I was back in confinement when I recieved my second injection and and not at the hands of a qualified nurse.
later she threw in a knife into my cell, and proceeded to call the police, when they showed up she yelled "he has a knife" they had their guns ready and looked into my cell to see that the knife was still on the floor.
I have never murdered anyone In my life and I have never raped anyone or molested anyone if you can prove otherwise I will chop off my right leg just below the knee cook it at 500 degrees celsius and eat it.
Therefore I can't see why I have been treated this way.
Some sort of guilt was assumed while I was in there and I do not know what the guilt is that they assumed.
If I had picked up that knife it would have been the end of my life.
Before going into hospital I was crying alot and very uneasy, I was sure I was dying and could not find the right medication I tried smoking the contents of tea bags specifically mint and a combination sleep tea, I was also using all kinds of creams on different parts of my body including my face and hair,
clearly I was not well but I assure you I was not hurting anyone other than myself and I was not going to or planning to, and haven't since.
I realise now how stupid I must have looked, and people have since accused me of using chemicals at that time. I most certainly was not - out of my own will or repeatedly using chemicals.
Be blind
Be blind, just pretend nothing of this happened and I never told you anything. Just live your lives as usual, nobody have the right to change it. I told you before that this would be the last message. . . but now you know about my existence, the concepts or "first" or "last" are meaningless.
Keep wise. Spread the word.
John.
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